Even though my talk with DH went well on Sunday night, the meeting with the RE on Monday didn't go so well. He started off my saying how sorry he was that the IVF didn't work and how, as an office, they really go through the cycle with you. Yeah, right, you pompous ass--you're just pissed cuz I'm bringing your numbers down! (Clarification--I like my RE, he's good and has numbers on par with CCRM, but he's an arrogant jerk)
So, we ask him what we learned from this cycle and he points out the embryology report that said poor quality eggs despite the beautiful-looking stim. Of course, none of this was relayed to us during the cycle, which I told him was just one example of the poor communication that they have set up during the post-ER part of the cycle. Anyway, I asked him about the fibroid that the u/s tech had seen on my last few scans and he rudely dismissed the tech's findings, despite the fact that he removed several fibroids last year. Then he essentially told us he was too busy with IVF's to bother with another myomectomy, so he would refer us to someone else to get it done if needed.
Then he jumped back into the poor egg quality and was pushing us toward donor eggs. DH is definitely against that (I'm not as opposed as I was before) but the RE kept pushing it, even though we already told him we wouldn't go that route. So back to my piss-poor eggs. I asked him about ways to improve egg quality, and he went on and on about DHEA and how he was the first in the area to use it and how CCRM didn't start using it until after he did. Ugh!
He did say that he would want to do genetic testing on all of our embryos if we went ahead with another cycle with my eggs. He didn't really want to hear that we wanted to do it this time but that his staff talked us out of it because we seemingly didn't have any risk factors. He finally admitted that he should do another SSH prior to cycling again, just to make sure that the fibroid wasn't causing a problem. He said that he would put me on DHEA for 8-12 weeks before another cycle if we wanted to go ahead with using my eggs.
Then he told us that we needed to take a break and get away from it for a while. We couldn't cycle again this year, partly because of the DHEA and partly because they shut down at the end of the year for routine embryology lab maintenance. He encouraged us to just relax and enjoy the holidays without this hanging over our heads. Then, he was done--he didn't really want to talk anymore or answer any more questions. He apparently had told us all that he wanted to tell us, and our time was up. I had gotten through most of my list of questions, so off we went. He made a copy of the embryology report and our cycle monitoring sheet for us, and we were on our way.
Needless to say, I cried most of the way home. I called my mom and cried about how unfair it was that I went about things the right way (job, marriage, house, then baby) and that I felt like I was being punished for it. She brought up using my sisters as egg donors, this time suggesting not just the older fertile myrtle, but my crazy younger sister too. I couldn't seem to get through to her that I wanted my baby, not just a baby. I met DH for dinner (we had taken 2 cars to the appt since he had been at work) and managed not to cry at the restaurant. It was a very quiet dinner, though--not much talking since just about anything would have set me off on another crying fit.
I've gotten past most of the crying now. I spent a good part of the day yesterday looking up ways to improve egg quality. I went to the store and bought some supplements (maca, royal jelly, l-arginine, wheat grass, CoQ-10) though I can't find anywhere how much of this stuff I'm supposed to take. I'm going to get my baseline labs drawn for the DHEA and get started on that. I'm still not sure if I want to cycle again, but if we do decide to try again, I don't want to have to wait even longer. At this point, it will be the end of January before I've done my 12 weeks of DHEA--hopefully we will have made a decision by then.
If anyone knows of other ways to improve egg quality (heck, I'll stand on my head 3 hours a day if I need to), please pass the info along. Or, if you can tell me how much of these stinking supplements I'm supposed to take, let me know.
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10 comments:
Infertility SUCKS! I'm sorry you had such a hard day :(
What a frustrating meeting. I'm sorry RE was being an arrogant ass and not listening to you. I've heard lots of different things about egg quality varying from month to month.
Good luck with the supplements. I hope they help.
I'm sorry to hear about your visit with your RE. Gosh, that is one visit I hope to never have. :( Try and enjoy the holidays, like he said, but I know it's hard. I know it's just one more holiday season down the drain with no pregnancy or baby. I'll be praying for strength for you.
Aaaaggghhh! I hate RE's like that. Talk about UNHELPFUL! They need to step back and realise they're dealing with people. So sorry honey.
Acu and chinese herbs can really help with egg quality, you should look into it. Also, I believe antioxidants (berries etc) and fish oil tablets. GOOD LUCK!!
Wow, your RE sounds like he is somewhat hard to deal with. Would you consider getting a second opinion? I know you are in rural Colorado so it might be difficult but maybe worth it. Everyone raves about some clinic in Vegas (not very helpful) but if you are west of the Rockies it might be worth the long trip?
My RE told me when I asked her before my transfer what she would do differently if it didn't work and she thought she would increase stims and then went on to say every month is different.
You have a lot to sort through. Taking your time is good.
I am so sorry you have to deal with this.
(((hugs)))
Ugh..I am so sorry your follow up appointment felt so rushed.
This whole thing is crazy unfair and sucky!
I wish you luck & peace in figuring out the next steps. *big hugs*
The book Making Babies has a lot of good advice about supplements, who should take them, and how much. It's a good book, too, though I can't remember how much it had to say about egg quality. I also believe in chinese medicine for egg quality (or "happy eggs" as my acupuncturist called them). But I'm sorry about the discouraging RE visit. He sounds like a good RE, but arrogant. He is probably wise to advise a break.
Ugh Cortney, I'm so sorry. I hate the way most doctors are so self-involved and patronizing. I hope the supplements work and if you do decide to go again, your eggies cooperate. (((HUGS)))
thank you, thank you! i hope you don't mind if i bug you at some point in my cycle (if i ever get to cycle) i really appreciate you taking the time out to respond! ill be following along with you s you move forward.
xoxo
lis
I'm sorry this is all so hard. (BTW, I gave you an award)
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